Agreed legit gets annoying to see the same fort being sieged every 2 weeks. I wouldn’t play if it’s like that cause sieges are so draining on resources and my eardrums.

What takes more time: preparing for the siege or the siege itself?

If it's the former, it would be a better idea to reduce the time needed to do that.

I hope you mean lowering the time to prepare for defense siege. Cause it would be stupid to make it so that you spend quite a lot of time placing stone bricks and whatnot and have the enemy construct a 1 thick small wall within few days to siege you

bro ccnet is fun cause of sieges

shimazu and russia were fine, wait until you have that many sieges

if you cannot defend the uk properly then disband it

What takes more time: preparing for the siege or the siege itself?

If it's the former, it would be a better idea to reduce the time needed to do that.

Its the former, not everyone has 50 grinders to work on and people that get spam sieged are obviously getting spam sieged because the opponent knows they're winning. If a siege was 2 sided then a siege happens like once a month because both sides would be hesitant to fight. When sieges happen every 2 weeks in the same place it really does mean that either 1 side is spam revolting or 1 side is spam supressing for plunder

if u are being spam sieged, either delete ur nation or surrunder

u have 2 weeks to prepare for a siege/revolt if u just got occupied
u got a lot of time

This is fair,
I have been torn between trying to improve my town, and preparing for a revolt while managing naval sieges. It is honestly stupid that you can be suppressed 2x a month. For small nations, it leaves ZERO chance to make the nation actually habitable and 0 time for domestic work. I have heard people talk about pretty much giving, but for CCnet to be interesting and to have lots of nations and more diversity we need to help smaller nations by giving them more prep time for example or this may as well be a server with 4 nations.

The arguments against this have pretty much been pathetic and hold no water, giving the smaller nation more time to prepare will make sieges more fun for both sides. This is a geopolitical earth server, not factions.

anyone suggesting i disband the nation, i cannot. that would be "occupation evading" .


as for zaify, i dont mind sieging the entire weekend, however i do mind the fact people can siege on a time that is thursday for some people. i personaslly dont have that issue but others do.

these constant sieges force us to prepare the entire 2 weeks and not do much domestically (recruit, build etcetc) we own a siege region and have income but unfortunately others do not share that privelege and are drained of resources every siege. people become burnt out and nations fall. I say if you get sieged twice in the same month there should be a week extra to prepare.


it is 9:10 am and i am in class as i write this, 2 hours ago i had 10 players helping me build my fort in preperation for the siege, they quickly became burnt out.


"shimazu and russia were fine" no they werent? shimazu was getting DESTROYED. even so the russians had more numbers anyway and a larger fort built before it was spam sieged.


enorme you have suggested that we cant defend the UK, we can. but we need time and we dont have time if we keep getting sieged as the fort is being built. you try place millions of blocks and brew pots and get resources for movecrasft and train pilots and run a shop server for income and farm gear and duct tape for autoanvils, and rat out insiders and secure bunker and design new movecraft and build a tank base and gather allies....


we can do that. if you give us more then 30 seconds to breathe before we get sieged.

What takes more time: preparing for the siege or the siege itself?

If it's the former, it would be a better idea to reduce the time needed to do that.

i dont understand what your saying

i suggest allowing more time to prepare.

Panda shimazu isn’t a coastal fort tho all that happens to dunlace is mass bombarding by ships. Russia also had strong allied in Sahara and carb empire. Whereas the uk doesn’t have that as others are busy with irl stuff. Dunlace is constantly being sieged by over 30 people while only having like 10 people that actually know pvp

pji56 this is the part where they will say "get more allies" well believe it or not our allies have lives and are also suffering the same constant sieging, its impossible to split our numbers over multiple sieges.

Yeh carbs been on holiday he ain’t here to roll coalition we need a breather and we can win lol. Look at naval sieges we let them have it for a bit then rolled them with some inexperienced pilots

Only reason we can’t defend Britain atm is time we don’t have time to prepare Britain for a siege and the when we do it’s more important to deal with a different siege

ali you are basicly coping and zaify is listening all u talking and making it istfg this is so boring cause all ur team vote for for it and its boring as fuk idk why everyone even listens to this if u cant protect ur nation disband it bro stop coping about that u cant defend it u trying to make everything to fit just for ur sieges like let others space too

how is zaify listening to me? if anything staff have reason to be annoyed at me im not exactlty the "sit still and wait your punishement"which causes others to dislike me. Its a suggestion we wcan do without it but its a suggestion team.

> istfg this is so boring

if yall have the right to tell people to shut up if they are not in every siege then you can also shut up about parts that are not siege related. Some people dont want to grind for wars 24/7. They want to do something else on the server. Given how wars happen only on weekends, there is quite a lot of nations you can siege instead of the same one every 2nd week. There is more than 4 nations on the opposing sides so its quite possible to still have wars every week with 1 month cooldowns on sieging since you can just siege someone else every week (revolt having less cooldown if u want to revolt earlier)

I agree sieges do need work like once you occupy a town now your prize is basically you siege them every week to suppress them making the daily upkeep they pay to you useless basically but the points you guys are making are dumb like
"This is fair,
I have been torn between trying to improve my town, and preparing for a revolt while managing naval sieges. It is honestly stupid that you can be suppressed 2x a month. For small nations, it leaves ZERO chance to make the nation actually habitable and 0 time for domestic work. I have heard people talk about pretty much giving, but for CCnet to be interesting and to have lots of nations and more diversity we need to help smaller nations by giving them more prep time for example or this may as well be a server with 4 nations.

The arguments against this have pretty much been pathetic and hold no water, giving the smaller nation more time to prepare will make sieges more fun for both sides. This is a geopolitical earth server, not factions."

If your a small nation you shouldn't have made decisions that led other people to go against you like cultist started with 3 members and a single town and instead of me talking shit to everyone I made decisions that I thought were the best for the future of the nation, you made bad decisions now you suffer the consequences and ask the server to fix the problems you made yourself
"we get sieged every week we don't have time to prep"
have you thought about just placing the white banner and not fighting once so you can keep prepping uhhhh :brain: :x:

you don't need to spend 50 weeks grinding just go take a vacation if block game has priority over your irl then the problem isn't the server the problem is you

Seasmy what your mistaking is that you think this is purely for my own benefit, dunlace was just used as an example but let's use another one.

How about the nordic conquerors who literally tell Wxllop to find random towns to siege?

How about fort metropolis? How did that siege go??

I can't place white banner or I lose 10k, losing 10k every fortnight is not fun

Stop being so biased because you don't like the block game, the first half of your arguments were good but then you started to pin the blame of "talking crap". Guess what???? I don't care.

If someone says "haha your bad" over a duel and you get sieged that's a skill issue.

Never in my life will I ever meet grown adults like I've seen on ccnet be so infuriated by PANINO28 who is easily in his teens. They get so mad and stay up all night. Seasmy all you say is we made it for ourself? Did you forget the whole coalition betraying UK for a pvper clan because PvP>Passion?

Your 3 person town wasnt immediately a fort and wasn't getting ganged by the entire server.

By the time I gained leadership of Britain diplomacy was shakier then your driving skills. All you do is complain because you drove away the people that had you from the start but I don't even care because I love waking up in the morning and seeing everyone hate on a 14 year old when most of them are almost double his age. It's so funny watching grown adults cry over kids.


As for you wrecker. I am not coping, I actually am enjoying myself watching you be blind. "disband your nation" do I even need to say it again?? Maybe I should bold it or maybe I should say it in cactuses voice so you remember it till the end of time "DISBANDING NATION IS OCCUPATION EVADE" adding a one week extra to siege the same nation twice won't kill you. What you wanna spam siege Sahara or rome or carb??? Stop acting like this only affects me. Believe it or not I thought shimazu and Japan siege got stale quickly it was the same siege again and again and again and it was boring.

" ali you are basicly coping and zaify is listening all u talking and making it istfg this is so boring cause all ur team vote for for it and its boring as fuk idk why everyone even listens to this if u cant protect ur nation disband it bro stop coping about that u cant defend it u trying to make everything to fit just for ur sieges like let others space too"


Wow, you could not be further from the truth this post wasn't sent ANYWHERE in any British servers. Nobody spam upvoted it. you repeat the same garbage again. Say it with me.
"My name is wrecker wanted and I seek personal happiness through spam sieging smaller nations including but not limited to Britain, Sahara, Rome, Carb empire. I am aware of the 3:1 ratio in player counts but will continue to talk smack because the comet craft network is my only source of pleasure. I strongly believe that nations do NOT have the right to exist, and that any nation who is spam sieged should disband or join the coalition leaving even less people to fight. I think that if somebody makes a suggestion it is completely based off of there personal trauma and they are making suggestions for selfish reasons."

Thanks wrecker. Thanks seasmy. Today I learnt that maturity doesn't come with age, at least not in y'all's case.

Goodnight Team, glory to Britannia

not a single word of that made a sense and i've read it 3 times now "then you started to pin the blame of "talking crap". Guess what???? I don't care." "but I don't even care because I love waking up in the morning and seeing everyone hate on a 14 year old"
I love watching people hate on me but here I am complaining about the consequences of my actions,

in the end you didn't understand what I actually said is stop taking ccnet so seriously sure your nation is a group of roleplayers but no fking way this isn't affecting your mental health

dude it doesn't lol, I literally have ccnet set times if illyt messaged me "were out of food" during class that's a later problem, I actually really enjoy the lore part of ccnet and running the actual nation and roleplaying as you call it is actually really fun, my mental health is fine because nothing j say comes from the heart

Xoxo

> They get so mad and stay up all night

Nahhh he disrespected the whole coalition
The points he said was "oh well cultist did this did that" meanwhile i see 0 sieges on cultist so them knowing the feeling of defending is unlikely

> Your 3 person town wasnt immediately a fort and wasn't getting ganged by the entire server

Indeed, they intentionally chose south america since that location never has fights. Another thing to note is that just by making 200 allies doesnt mean its encouraged for everyone to ally everyone, instead the game needs to encourage people to make as smaller alliances as they can

> By the time I gained leadership of Britain diplomacy was shakier then your driving skills

Indeed, I have seen this man fight on both sides and it has been annoying
but me not liking him in game due to those decisions wont affect me reading his suggestions without being biased. This man took his time to write suggestions and responses better than 90% of the server and brought his points well despite him being quite younger than all of us.

As far as disbanding UK goes, it should be encouraged for people to keep making new nations and players should be helped in some way or another by staff team in doing so. New people often fail to make a nation for different reasons so there might be a need for updated wiki, more rotating random messages about some tips for making a nation, or even helpers actually helping people more / new rank called mentor who would teach and give tips to players

Actually, it has been quite a while since zaify was interested if he should increase siege cooldowns so this suggestion didnt give him the idea, but it might make it happen sooner

> Thanks wrecker. Thanks seasmy. Today I learnt that maturity doesn't come with age, at least not in y'all's case

For a long time I have though that this man was goofy cringe guy but seems like he has proven me wrong. Being on 2 sides is still cringe though

Lordseubka damn my bro all this time u have to type all this i havent seen u just here typing like this i have seen u everywhere giving opinions like you know about sieges n stuff like even ali can talk about this u cant cause ur the gunspammer who is having fun about everything that makes sieges winnabale by just points and nothing else to have fun with so idk how u talk about maturity n stuff when ur probably 12 no offense:/ i understand ali wana win cause hes getting sieged every 2 weeks but coping to staff is not the best way like make alliances do something to help ur nation call people learn them how to fight and let them help u and win it by urself.

Uhhh, actually I know more about sieges since I have been on ccnet since the start of nations

I have seen those mfs nerf every single thing I use in combat in order for it to be more accessible to casual people. So basically, as someone who has been there through the whole history of the server I do know what Im talking about

Just cause I took a break from the server for some time due to me not seeing it worth it since most people that play were quite bad and it resulted in having to recruit elsewhere doesnt mean im a random. I also stopped practicing pvp but I still manages to combo you hard last duel but died due to doing 0 damage since you are the person "who is having funaboyt anything that makes you win by points". I prefer to use guns since it allows me to keep track of whats going on and doesnt force me to be focused so I can give useful information and commands to my people. It also makes me less likely to die via freezing since i broke my hard disk so it happens from time to time.

I might be rusty a lot but I am still better than most people. I no longer see any values in practicing for a block game. I am an adult so I have other important stuff to do with my free time

Not to mention that in the time I was away from ccnet I was researching game design and statistics and other bs so I mostly know ins and outs of what makes a game good and appealing to players of all skill levels.

The only people complaining are the ones who want to keep the monopoly over dominating randoms. I want thise randoms to actually start pulling their weight instead of me doing all their work on top of mine. We are not the same

Wrecker I cannot believe you said "stop coping to staff make alliances" what a fantastic idea... who can I ally with...

Japan no
Cultist no
Thracia no
Nordic Conquerors no
Oceanic Empire no

Who I CAN ally with
Iberian Turkish Empire
Imperium Kanadum.

Do you truly think that this suggestion is my last resort to win the siege? You think in afk in bunker praying this suggestion gets approved so I can win the siege? I can win sieges without it, but it's less fun to win a siege when you've been preparing 2 weeks for it.

Buff noobs, im sick of carrying them in every aspect. Feels more like im their slave instead of them working for me

He has the allies wrecker. Just he doesn’t have 30 kids to grind all day for him so he needs a breather to win a siege. You can’t win when you need more then 2 weeks to prepare

have you thought about just placing the white banner and not fighting once so you can keep prepping uhhhh :brain: :x:

Yeah lets make the once 2 week siege every other weekend because u get no immunity lol, nice argument

A lot of people here are clearly bored that they have no good opposition after alliance died and want to force others into fighting them to have a glimpse of fun including randoms and new nations. This lack of opposition has also increased the amount of barking from their side, as you can see here half the chat is telling aliiitsme to just disband as if thats what the nations gamemode is for. Preposterous lmao

literally for real, let me grow INTO a nation that will threaten others, so that we can have some fun, telling me to place banner... THEN DONT SIEGE????

I refuse. I will not place banner, I will delay Britian because I will not sit there and surrender to bullying.

Glory to Britain

Suggestions are a place where you can suggest changes about things you dont feel are fun for you. A server is meant to create the game that is fun for everyone so he has every right to state his opinion and same goes for anyone else having right to have a different opinion and say it in comments to why they think it wont be good instead of crying, rejecting opinions and telling them to become better. Its a minecraft server so it cant afford to have a big skill gap that would make it unplayable for newer players due to low max player limit that is hardly even filled throughout the day apart from when its a siege and every nation calls people who log on just for that. Most players that are online every day for large amounts of hours arent skilled pvpers so you need to take those people into consideration as well. They are the ones that increase player count and make it more appealing for new players that join and therefore keeping the server active and growing. Pvpers might be a big part of war experience but its not like wars would magically stop if the skill gap is somewhat smaller

So based on that, people that show up to every siege are not the most important people on the server and everyone else does not need to shut up, matter of fact your opinion is the one that shouldnt be counted. Why is that? Well if we look up your chat logs from the past month we can see that on average you log on for 10 minutes a day unless its a war in which you log on for ~5 hours meaning on average your playtime is 1 hour a day. If you do not even care to play the server normally then stop caring about how the server changes. I only looked up your activity in the past month so if you have been more active in the months before but are busy irl now that might have been an oversight

So Aliit says he want to threaten other people but he doesnt want sieges

U just made a suggestion cus i cannot get the uk unoccupied have u seen rome? They have been struggling a few months ago but i didnt see any of them make a suggestion or thracia at its beginning stages being constantly occupied by gne i didnt see those people make suggestions but when uk stays occupied i see i cope about it in every suggestion and now u even make one for it

U just made a suggestion cus u cannot get the uk unoccupied have u seen rome? They have been struggling a few months ago but i didnt see any of them make a suggestion or thracia at its beginning stages being constantly occupied by gne i didnt see those people make suggestions but when uk stays occupied i see u cope about it in every suggestion and now u even make one for it

Correction

lets do a little role play enorme

Banner placed 10am fridays in the morning for me (I was in class)

I come back at 3pm

inactive timezone for my allies but the enemies no life so i cant cap banner.

dunlace siege finish sunday 9am for me.


calculate losses and damages and recover sets, tp people out of ganks, reorganise bunker after breach.

Monday I cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Tuesday cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Wednesday cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Thursday cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Friday cant work on fort I have work irl.

Saturday. Fort building, pot brewing, set making etc

Sunday Fort building, pot brewing, set making etc


week two of cooldown

Monday I cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Tuesday cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Wednesday cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Thursday cant work on fort until 7pm because of school. 7-9pm fort building
Friday cant work on fort I have work irl.

Saturday. Fort building, pot brewing, set making etc

Sunday Fort building, pot brewing, set making etc


where is the time to place millions of blocks?/

rubka whos activity is that?

"So Aliit says he want to threaten other people but he doesnt want sieges"

no mf. im responding to s3xy berry saying people are bored because alliance died and there is no competitors.

I said that if you stopped spam sieging me maybe i could grow into a nation that would threaten other nations in terms of power. thus giving a reason to siege and actually having fun competition... stop taking things out of context

Enorme your coping over someone wanting a break from spam
Sieges? Like bro grow up. The server has role players aswell as pvpers. Idk why you think your more important then anyone else. If spam sieges happened too much A lot of the playerbase would quit cause pvpers have an ego to fill. Grow up and stop coping cause britain wants a break from mass sieges.

Grow up? Me? Ur the one coping 247 cus u cant win in a block game ur the one here that should grow up

And allitsme if u do not have the time to upkeep a nation then stop its that simple

Enorme your the one complaining cause someone wants a break from mass sieges. Small nations can’t prepare in time for the next siege and your here complaining cause the smaller nations want a break to prepare. If that doesn’t require you to grow up then this generation is soft as shit.

Bros saying he doesnt need to grow up after telling someone to cope cause they cant spend 12 hours in a game and practice pvp for 4 hours daily to have some fun. Just cause people have lives and want to do stuff that aint war related once in a while doesnt mean they should not be able to play the game on the same level as others. The whole servers activity should not revolve around preparing forts for wars or getting money to buy war items

ZAIFY I'll address you directly in this. I know the others will say cope to staff but this is my point of view.

I am a small nation who has faced ups and downs and is currently at a low point.

I want to grow but I keep getting sieged and drained of resources.

I cannot surrender because that makes our nation considered officially dead.

I can't disband or that would lower morale.

I stay up long hours to finish my fort and projects and ingame stuff.

I can't afford to constantly be sieged for the rest of my life.

Being told to disband is the opposite of what nations is.


I am literally mid prep right now but will be assisting in an ally siege otherwise it would be bad to not support your allies.

I have no time. And peace week clashes with the cooldown time so it's useless.

I'm not going to tell you to do this to save ccnet or whatnot this is just a suggestion.

As you can predominantly tell it's my enemies that play the server purely for PvP who don't like this.

Geopolitical server. It's in the bio of the server. There is politics and role play too. I want to run a nation and build cool things and have a name but i can't .

Now take this suggestion with a grain of salt. I think you have seen the community in this thread and the levels of toxicity.

Point A. Being my well presented essay which people called coping and being too no life to write an essay (it took 10minutes )

Point B. People repeating the same stuff despite multiple people INCLUDING my enemies saying they are wrong.

You don't have to implement this.

And this suggestion WOULD benefit me.

But the entire British legacy doesn't ride on this suggestion.

Deny it if you wish
Imply it if you wish.

I have no hopes nor sadness.

Goodnight sir

1. I don't think raising siege immunity (*but* also the revolt cooldown) is a bad idea.

2. I don't quite understand this story you tell of a nation in crisis. Why are you working on your fort 2 hours every day? Why are you the only one doing that; why aren't these tasks being delegated to others?

As you know we do have lived, I have a job and school and I go to the gym yet I still play WAYYY to much ccnet.

This suggestion isn't for dunlace siege.

It's because constantly getting sieged is a large resource drainer.


People have real lives and become demotivated to play ccnet.

There is alot of other things my residents do other then build forts

It is difficult to hold a fort builders attention span.

Even with our fort fully built and we win this revolt we can't sustain to be sieged every 2 weeks by a larger power (coalition) a combination of rich and player mass nations. It's impossible to sustain and also work domestically.

Britain holds Atlantic just to cover the navy.

Other nations don't have a siege region so they can't have a large competitive worthy navy. (Or fort or etc)

Money exchanged for services is the bane of a successful nation

With money you can pay for builders, pay movecraft designs, pay mercenary groups, pay for pots and resources.

And the coalition has a crap tonne of money and resources and pvpers.

Essentially what they are doing is bullying smaller nations e.g today at carb empire the number difference is evident because they are bored.

I want just a tiny but longer in the cooldown so I don't get sieged twice in a row, so I can actually work in the weekends

> Why are you the only one doing that

As if you can tell normal casual players to slave away for hours placing stone bricks. I was lucky enough to get them to work for 30 minutes once. The game should be fun, not a chore. Designing the outside layer of a fort is fine (~100k blocks), filling the insides is not (~500-800k blocks). I'm pretty sure a lot of people would rather spend the same time or more time grinding cash to somehow pay for the inners to be filled than placing the bricks themselves. Filling the forts is equivalent to watching paint dry on a wall.

at least you dont get carpal tunnel watching paint dry.

I can confirm dunlace is 3million blocks in size and i do NOT feel like placing allat. my residents place too but each one places maybe 10k a day before feeling bored.

10x6 residents =60k a day

3mil blocks divided by 60k a day

50 days a little under 2 months of straight building.

and thats if people actually even place 10 blocks let alone 10k

people have lives.

- Damage to HP blocks was halved
- Howitzers no longer bypass Block HP
- Explosions are disabled out of battle sessions

With these changes in mind, I don't understand the *necessity* of building such a large fort. It seems overkill.

Can you do it? Sure. Is it necessary? I am not sure about that. Can you precisely explain why it is?

I think this is another argument for limiting the number of plots where Block HP can be active.

Like there is some unknown minimal effort that can be done but without any big sieges we dont quite know yet how far people can drill. Anything over that is just "extra protection" if you rly got nothing better to do but still want to somewhat upgrade the fort. Not sure what design he got but 3 mil blocks shouldnt be possible unless he is literally filling a 60 deep hole of the whole 169 chunks of his claim with bricks to prevent them from drilling to bunker

So Zaify, Dunlace Castle is a coastal fort and the enemy side primarily works with ships. Dreadnoughts still do large amounts of damage to forts during battle session.
With them out numbering us they are able to get multiple dreads at the same time shooting at our fort. 5 good movecrafters vs 20 amateurs is not very good numbers.

they have ports nearby and are very rich in resources so they will out ship us.

we need a big fort so that if we are getting drilled from all the ends we have time for our players to get in ships and defend.

it is 100% neccersary because the moment the enemies actually start losing the siege they will pull movecraft and shell us to high heaven