Plus fort cannons will be almost pointless

It’s supposed to be a challenge to seige forts so the defenders actually hold the advantage

I legit dont get to why they were removed in the first place. Like Ok, one tapping is scuffed it can just fix that thing while still making it usable but not remove the whole thing.

Bro really said let us just cap the banner with only swords and make it actually work without any effort. It legit requires one or two tanks to prevent 6+ people making cannons on the fort which is balanced compared to movecraft capping that was removed forcing everyone to use movecraft.

The point was to disable the threat and then cap the banner rather than always being safe from every threat on the banner. People can legit use an IFV or a fighter and do more damage than a canister (unless it one taps) which still forces attackers to use movectaft so I dont get it at all. And no its not points cause IFV can run away which it does in every siege

The points of them being op is presented in an extreme case where its uncontested and given free damage. The same thing can be said about guns on a platform near the banner which do more DPS than canisters. I had more luck doing damage with gun than canister cause its so unreliable. It does no damage most of the times and then randomly you get lucky and one tap someone

ITV’s have a million counters and the the cannons did not limit use of movecraft so basically they needed the defenders and just made it about who has more men

Or you could just make field gun fire able from forts again

They should just make normal fort cannons more viable against enroaching enemy movecraft, like ur render distance is a joke if u dont pilot it as turret, u see nothing.

Yeah I agree with that too

Its very easy to counter field guns on fort if u have any kind of movecraft out on battle field. Its legit same with IFV if u have any movecraft that is not another IFV u can sink it witch is reason I think last changes abaut canister and ifv are bullshit.

The questions you need to be asking are these:

When the banner is being hammered by canister shot, is it:

1. Fun to play against and counter?
2. Balanced?

The fact of the matter that has been forgotten is that canister was moved to field guns in the first place because "canister spamming" by defenders had become extremely obnoxious. After being moved to field guns, canister was balanced with the view it would be fired from Wilderness from lone cannons, so its damage was increased. Now that it is being used from the safety of forts again, there is a balance issue.

The question you need to be asking are these:

1. Is there an alternative to canisters that works exactly the same and the banner is still hammered down?
2. Are the alternatives doing more damage?

Canisters did joke damage apart from the anomaly that one tapped players. Normal shelling the banner did more consistent damage but was hardly killing people with one taps. Gunning the banner produces a more reliable DPS to drain their healing over 7 minutes and force them to retreat. Not to mention that you can also stand next to the banner with an IFV/Tank and shoot them down into infinity without much issues.

> fired from Wilderness

and how would that happen? in no reality would you ever be shooting onto the banner from wild cannons. Its a pure joke coming from an ideology that was never tested in gameplay. It was tried in Trapezitsa siege and every cannon that was in the wild got insta destroyed quite fast by fort cannons. Attackers have howitzers to shoot shrapnel from a somewhat safe distance

The reason to why its "spammed" is cause its not contested. Of course you will be spammed by anything in existence if you do nothing to prevent it. Livland siege didnt have any canister spam on the banner cause the cannons were contested by one or two tanks to keep them busy and away from the banner. Unlike the movecraft capping that requires you to equally contest enemy movecraft in terms of numbers, you do not need insane amounts of crafts in the fields to destroy enemy cannons. And once they are destroyed its fairly easy to prevent them from rebuilding them.

Not to mention the fact that field guns were balanced in a way that their downwards depression angle was 10 degree meaning it needed to be placed quite low on the wall which makes it a lot easier to hit with opposing cannons of any kind. As well as the fact that once enemy started to use howitzers to destroy wall cannons they were also disabled and prevented to be used for quite some time

This change was made purely by bending for melee pvpers complaining who did nothing apart from blindly rushing the banner without any plan in mind other than left click and place blocks to hide. A simple change to how canisters work would have fixed the issue by lowering the peak damage where it one taps players since most of the times it did few hearts at best given that field guns along with any manual placed cannon near the fort is garbage and will never be used. There is no absolute reason to why any human on the planet will use something weak. Why would any attacker waste their time on a silly little cannon that is one tappable have no protection against infantry with weak damage when they can pilot a tank that has a machinegun to do damage and has a cannon that can blow stuff up and cant be attacked by infantry

One heavy tank is enough to stop almost all cannon fire

Canister was used at livland I got a few kills with it but other than that all the cannons died every session when movecraft was out

Even my enemies agree with me

I’m serious this should be done before the next seige window

Dude Field Guns are so epic on forts they look so good ngl thats all Ill say